Building Relationships in Green Hall

The importance of building relationships with those around you

Reagan Hoskin, 1L, KU Law Student Ambassador

Law school is an exciting time. I know in the whirlwind of everyday life, the excitement of this time in our lives can get lost. But now is a wonderful opportunity to build relationships with classmates who will become lifelong friends, get to know professors who can help guide you through law school and network with attorneys around the area. It is important to take advantage of these opportunities.

Reach out to professors

Professors are the best resource available to you. They have been through law school, have real-world experience in the legal profession and know the ins and outs of the class. Not only will you gain knowledge about the class, but you will also gain knowledge about the legal profession and the nuances of law school. The best way to reach out to professors is to utilize their office hours, or set up time outside of class to go over course material or practice problems

Get to know the faculty

From the Dean’s assistants, to library staff, to the admissions office, the faculty at KU Law have the best interest of the students at heart. Every day you are greeted with cheery smiles as you navigate through Green Hall. Whenever I have a question, I always have someone I can turn to who can either answer that question or point me in the right direction.

Build relationships with classmates

Your classmates are the people going through law school with you. While I have friends and family who are supportive of me, they do not necessarily understand the anxiety of a cold call. Build those relationships with classmates because you can lean on each other. Besides, there are some pretty cool people attending KU Law. Learning their stories and what inspired them to obtain a law degree is fun. Everyone has their own unique story and perspective; you never know what you will learn. After law school, these classmates will become a network of attorneys for you across the nation and possibly the world.

Take advantage of networking events

I cannot stress this enough. The Career Services Office (CSO) works tirelessly to ensure there are countless networking and educational events for the students to take advantage of. Recently, I attended the Speed Mock Interviews hosted by Martin Pringle and facilitated by the CSO. Each year, Martin Pringle brings in attorneys from a wide array of career paths to conduct mock interviews with students in a low-stakes, but fun environment. It was an awesome opportunity to practice my interviewing skills, while also networking with local attorneys. This is only one example of the many networking opportunities available to KU Law students.

Do not let this exciting period in your life slip away without building some meaningful relationships. I know it can be easy to get lost in the coursework but look up from your books for a moment and take advantage of this amazing opportunity.

— Reagan Hoskin is a 1L KU Law Student Ambassador from Pittsfield, Illinois

Recent graduate spotlight: Michelle Brady, L’21

As a veteran herself, Michelle Brady has a passion for veterans law.

When the 2021 University of Kansas School of Law graduate saw an opening to clerk under Judge Amanda Meredith of the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims, she decided to apply. Brady has been clerking with Judge Meredith since October 2022.

As a clerk, Brady works on a few cases at a time. She researches the law that applies to each case, looks through records and reads briefs. A lot of reading and writing goes into the job.

“I honestly love all of it. It’s all my favorite part. Every day, I am so excited. I do not even like stopping. But my real favorite part is reading the briefs,” Brady said.

“It’s fun to see what different attorneys think is appropriate to write or how they state their argument. I am learning so much so that when I become an appellate attorney – that’s my goal – I will have an idea of what it should look like and what is truly persuasive,” she said.

As a non-traditional student and mother of two, Brady was limited in her availability for hands-on learning opportunities at KU Law. One that she chose to take advantage of was moot court. She and her partner competed and learned skills such as reading, writing and oral advocacy.

Michelle Brady
Michelle Brady

In her time with the Moot Court Program, Brady formed lifelong relationships. Her competition partner is still a close friend. Her moot court faculty coaches helped Brady land her clerkship. Taking the time to prove her skills to coaches paid off, Brady said.

“I had to do a good job and when they saw that, they were willing to stick their neck out for me a little bit. I wouldn’t be here otherwise,” she said.

Brady ended up at KU Law by a bit of chance, but always felt very welcomed. Her husband is in the Air Force and needed to go to school. He ended up in Leavenworth and KU Law was the best law school nearby. In addition to moot court, Brady was also the president of the Military Law Society. The group gave her a network of veterans to interact with as well as people who were interested in military and veterans law.

Before coming to KU Law, Brady was a helicopter pilot in the Army. After law school, Brady worked as an attorney for the Air Force.

Brady knows how hard law school can be, especially as a non-traditional student with kids. Her advice to current students is to put in the work and take chances when applying. It just might pay off.

“Apply broadly, but don’t be too worked up if they don’t get something. There are plenty of other opportunities out there,” Brady said.

“Be creative and branch out. You don’t even have to be a lawyer; a law degree is helpful in a lot of places,” she said. “Your first semester does not define your career. Try not to stress, maintain a balance and know that things will work out.”

— Sarah Pickel

Earning Pro Bono Hours: Volunteering for VITA

All you need to know about the VITA clinic

What is VITA?

Rachel Henderson

The Volunteer Income Assistance (VITA) clinic is offered by the University of Kansas School of Law each spring. Through VITA, law students prepare free federal land state tax returns for Douglas County residents earning less than $58,000 a year. KU Law students can earn pro bono hours by volunteering for VITA. This year, VITA runs from February 20 to April 17 (Tax Day). VITA sessions are held Monday through Saturday. Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday sessions are held at the law school. Tuesday sessions are held at the Ballard Center, and Thursday sessions are held at the Lawrence-Douglas Housing Authority. KU Law students volunteer for at least one session a week. Students attend training sessions led by Dean Mazza, and each tax return is checked by a site coordinator prior to being submitted.

Who can volunteer for VITA?

Any KU Law student can volunteer for VITA! Tax experience is preferred – but not required. “Tax experience” includes taking a tax class in law school or undergrad (VITA recruits students from Dean Mazza’s Income Tax!) However, I volunteered for VITA last year without any tax experience. I reached out to Dean Mazza and expressed my interest in volunteering for the clinic. Despite my lack of experience, Dean Mazza encouraged me to attend a training session and ultimately volunteer for the clinic. I quickly figured out how to use the software – with Dean Mazza’s and the site coordinators’ help. I encourage anyone who is interested in VITA to give it a go!

Why volunteer for VITA?

Kat Girod, 3L, recruiting students to take part in the VITA clinic

I really enjoyed my time volunteering for VITA last year and despite my busy 2L schedule, I’m making time to volunteer again this year. VITA allows students to serve their community in a meaningful way. Clients often struggle to file taxes on their own and are grateful for the service we provide. VITA provides law students with opportunities to develop interpersonal skills while working directly with clients. If students volunteer 15 or more hours of their time for VITA, they will make the pro bono honor roll! Finally, many attorneys have participated in VITA, and it is a great way to connect with attorneys during networking events or interviews.

Why should I try new things in law school?

Many law students come into law school not knowing what they want to do with their law degrees after graduation. Many of us think we know, but completely change our minds once we start learning about all our options. Participating in clinics like VITA allows students to experiment with different areas of law and find out what they like. VITA led me to take Dean Mazza’s Income Tax class last fall. While the class was challenging, I enjoyed it a lot. VITA and Dean Mazza’s Income Tax have inspired me to pursue a career in estate planning. VITA may lead you down a new and exciting path too!

Rachel Henderson is a 2L KU Law Student Ambassador from Wichita, Kansas

Hands-on learning: KU Law’s Judicial Field Placement Program

Five reasons why you should consider a placement program

Karlie Bischoff

I chose to attend KU Law, in part, because of its hands-on learning opportunities. My experience has exceeded my expectations, largely due to the Judicial Field Placement Program.

I recently completed the first half of my field placement with Judge Julie A. Robinson, United States District Judge for the District of Kansas. This mid-way point seemed like the perfect opportunity to share five reasons why I recommend participating in KU Law’s Judicial Field Placement Program.

1. Building relationships with judges, law clerks, courtroom deputies and court reporters

My judicial field placement gives me the opportunity to work with Judge Robinson and her entire chambers. Many things that I experienced at my internship are new to me, and they consistently explain to me how things work and their approaches to different parts of their work. This experience has allowed me to build relationships and gain incredible mentors that have provided me with invaluable feedback and guidance. One of the parts I enjoy most about my internship is listening to stories about past cases and experiences.

2. Seeing the substance of my classes in real cases  

My judicial field placement allows me to see and experience the material that I’ve learned in class as it applies to real cases. I took Evidence during the first half of my field placement. Observing jury trials and evidentiary hearings allowed me to see the Rules of Evidence in action. I have only taken one course involving criminal law, so my judicial field placement allows me to learn about sentencing, plea deals and other aspects of criminal law and procedure that I have not learned in school.

3. Observing various styles of advocacy and how attorneys interact with each other and with judges

During my field placement, I have observed various attorneys in different types of proceedings. Each attorney has a different advocacy style, and watching these different styles allows me to see a wide range of effective lawyering. Additionally, I enjoy observing how attorneys interact with each other, with the parties, and with judges. I feel lucky to observe how prepared and professional the attorneys that I have observed act. I hope to demonstrate the same level of competency in the future.

4. Improving my technical skills

At my judicial field placement, I have been able to research and write about issues in real cases. This experience allows me to improve my ability to find issues, thoroughly research, and write clearly. Most importantly, I receive feedback on my skills and have learned how I can keep improving.

5. Discovering and exploring career options

While I haven’t decided exactly how I plan to use my law degree, litigation interests me, and I hoped my Judicial Field Placement would help me further explore whether I hope to pursue that path. Fortunately, my field placement has only strengthened this interest and I am excited for another semester to observe litigators in practice and to continue strengthening my legal research and writing skills.

— Karlie Bischoff is a 2L KU Law Student Ambassador from Kansas City, Missouri

Executive director of Kansas Legal Services retires after 43 years

Marilyn Harp, L’79, has spent her career serving those in need

Marilyn Harp, L'79, stands in front of Green Hall.
Marilyn Harp, L’79

Kansas Legal Services Executive Director Marilyn Harp, L’79, retired in December 2022. She served as executive director since 2005 but has been a member of the Kansas Legal Services team since the beginning of her career in 1979. KU Law graduate Matthew Keenan, L’84 took the help as KLS executive director at the beginning of 2023.

“I have loved my job and being able to serve those in need,” Harp said. “This job has been varied. This job has been challenging. I have never been bored.”

During her tenure at Kansas Legal Services, Harp took the lead on building a more user-friendly website for KLS, which now gets nearly 1 million page views per year.

“I have had people who aren’t our clients come up to me and say, ‘I was having difficulty finding resources on my rights as a tenant, etc., but I went to your website and I figured it out,'” Harp said. “My part of doing that is making sure that people who can self-represent have the resources to do so and about 10,000 people a year take advantage of those forms.”

Alongside that project, Harp also had a hand in the development of two important programs: the Central Intake process and the Elder Law Hotline.

“The Elder Law Hotline is a great volunteer program because attorneys will take a four-hour shift and know if calls are coming and we’re able to forward calls from our call center to that lawyer. We’re really lucky to have some amazing elder law specialist attorneys in the state who volunteer for that so people can get some great help in that way,” Harp said.

Through all her successes, however, Harp has passed on her love of serving those in need to her staff.

“I hire people who want to say yes,” Harp said, with a smile. “And then I put them in a job where a lot of times they have to say no. They are bright and independent and have the best interests of their clients.”

Background

Originally from Wichita, Harp first joined the KU family as an undergraduate in social work. She graduated in 1976 and started the path to her law degree the day after her undergraduate graduation.

“I grew up watching ‘Perry Mason,'” Harp said. “I always wanted to be Della Street, [the legal secretary] because that was the role women played in law firms at the time. Somewhere along the line, someone told me to think about being the lawyer and not the legal secretary.”

An opportunity to intern at Kansas Legal Services set Harp’s career in motion.

“I did an internship at the Kansas City office of Kansas Legal Services and afterward, I moved to Wichita,” Harp said. “I basically waited for weeks for this job to open up because KLS was where I wanted to work. It’s the only place I’ve ever worked.”

Being at the same company for the entirety of her career, Harp has some words of wisdom.

“Your job has to change with you as you get interested in new things,” she said. “You know, when you’re starting a new law practice or a new career the biggest problem is having enough clients, right? Kansas Legal Services does not have that problem because there’s such a need. This job has in some ways been the perfect mash-up between my social work background and my law background.”

Harp also encourages future lawyers and current law students to keep an open mind while in the classroom.

“When I was in law school, you had to take two semesters of Business Associations. At the time I knew I was going to work with poor people, so I didn’t understand why I needed this class,” Harp said. “Within literally six months I was talking to senior centers about incorporating. That’s what law does. It brings you lots of different opportunities and you can see them either as ‘I don’t know what this is so I don’t want to deal with it’ or ‘I don’t know what this is so I should go figure it out.'”

Teaching the future

On top of her legal work, creating programs that benefit those less fortunate across the country, and developing cohesive outward-facing products used by over a million people, Harp also found time to teach both at Wichita State and, later, at KU Law.

After her friend and former teacher, Carol Beier, was appointed as a Kansas Court of Appeals judge, Harp was given the opportunity to teach a new generation of students about Women in Law.

“Teaching that class was really fun. Feminist history through the eyes of the laws then is really interesting and I’m sorry that KU doesn’t offer a class like that,” Harp said. “The class teaches you about advocacy over an issue in your life.”

When the opportunity arose to continue teaching for the Elder Law Field Placement program, Harp jumped at the chance. Unfortunately for KU Law, Harp has retired from teaching as well.

“I saw [Dean] Stephen Mazza and he said, ‘You’re still going to teach, right?'” Harp said with a laugh. “But retiring is retiring.”

What’s next?

Harp, Kansas Legal Services staff, and Kansas Bar Association staff and board members gather around Laura Kelly's desk as she signs a proclamation for KLS's 45th anniversary.
Harp attends the Proclamation ceremony for the 45th Anniversary of Kansas Legal Services. Photo courtesy of Marilyn Harp.

According to Harp, lawyers never seem to actually retire, and she is no exception.

“Being a lawyer is such an identity,” Harp said. “If you don’t have your law license, then what is your identity?”

Harp isn’t looking for a quiet retirement, instead, she’s turning her focus to legislation and what she can do to help with legislative reform.

“[Reforms] need a guide so I’m going to be a citizen lobbyist,” Harp said. “I have a badge that says, ‘citizen lobbyist’ and I’m working for nobody but myself. I’m only going to do things I’m interested in and help make those changes happen.”

She also plans to stay close to home and continue her work helping those less fortunate.

“Douglas County is about to open a help center in the courthouse and they’re looking for volunteers,” she said. “Helping a person with a legal problem get from point A to point B is still the thing I love the most about what I’ve done in my life, so I’m going to do more of that at the help center.”

And though she may be retired from Kansas Legal Services, she still plans on lending a hand to the programs she helped get started.

“I can become an emeritus attorney and take pro bono cases for KLS. I can still have that identity as a retired lawyer and help out at the Elder Hotline. I am definitely going to do some of the live expungement and driver’s license clinics we do,” Harp said.

For other lawyers similar to Harp, there are options to keep practicing even after retirement. More information about what you can do with your retired status can be found at Kansas Legal Services from Joy Springfield, director of pro bono services.

As for current KU Law students or any student in a law program, Harp has more words of advice:

“The best things that have happened to me in my career are when I took a risk,” Harp said. “The truth is, you leave law school not knowing how to do a lot of things, but you leave knowing how to figure out how to do a lot of things, so keep that going. Don’t settle for routine. Practicing law can either help you be creative or make you feel like you’re not creative at all. I’ve chosen to approach law creatively.”

— By Emma Herrman

School got you stressed?

Doing less may be more impactful than trying to do more + Brett’s Paella Recipe

Brett Hallagan
Brett Hallagan, 3L KU Law Student Ambassador

The end of the fall semester ushers in a time of change at the law school. The leaves fall, the sky greys, Green Hall becomes a muted shade of concrete and brown, finals stress and imposter syndrome rear their heads once again, and depression transitions into a flavorful pumpkin-spiced seasonal depression.

There is no doubt that the end of the semester can be a cocktail of emotions. But don’t let this scare you, for I have frequented enough “Bar Review” events to learn a trick to preventing law school hangovers.

Just like hydration and a meal helps a bad hangover, feeding your mind, body, and soul will help you in the enduring battle against your own self-criticism. 

Feeding your mind

Objectively, the memes in this post are funny yet accurate descriptions of school. But what makes them great is the mask of humor that covers the self-neglect we believe necessary to be successful in law school. However, self-neglect is emotional malnourishment and although it feels better than a cold call on a subject you haven’t read, its long-term effects are much worse than those few moments of embarrassment.

A meme to go with this post. Text reads: "When ur dead and then u realize u don't have time to be dead because you have to study."

Instead of keeping your mind in a constant state of stress to maintain self-imposed deadlines, I implore you to take a few breaths and relax. Watch a show you haven’t kept up on, take a hike, read something that doesn’t have “Et al.” as an author, or simply just veg on the couch for a bit. Whatever you choose to do, the key is to rest your mind. So, take a break and make sure to muzzle that voice that’s constantly telling you, “Work is more important than self-care.”

Feeding your soul

There is no doubt this semester has been a challenge and has even shown me the upper limits of what I can effectively manage.

A meme to go with this post. Text reads: "Quiz: Are you even good enough to have imposter syndrome?"

Unfortunately, that limit is at times far less than what I currently have on my plate. Coming up short can be crushing, but perfect is the enemy of good. If you constantly worry about perfection, you will never realize how great you are today. Feeding your soul positivity and practicing positive affirmations will improve your natural defense against stress, burnout and imposter syndrome.

Just remember, any “Ls” you take along the way don’t need to be losses, they can be lessons.

Feeding your body

OK, I know self-help posts can start feeling a bit cringe after a while, so I will get to the point.

Eating well is crucial, and the Lunchables from the Burge can only get you so far. So, in traditional Brett fashion, I have incorporated another one of my recipes into this blog for you to use as an exercise in feeding your mind, body and soul. Take a break from studying, relax, give it a go, and bask in the deliciously joyful embrace of a good home-cooked meal.

Brett’s Paella Recipe

A pan of paella
Brett’s paella recipe

Ingredients

  • Olive oil
  • 1 large onion, diced
  • 1 zucchini, diced
  • 1 bell pepper, diced
  • 8oz mushroom, sliced
  • 4 Roma tomatoes, Cubed
  • or 1 can of crushed tomatoes
  • 4 large garlic cloves, diced
  • 2 cups bomba rice (or substitute a medium grain rice) (DO NOT RINSE)
  • 5 cups chicken broth
  • ½ cup frozen peas
  • 1-3 bay leaves
  • 2 teaspoon paprika
  • Pinch of saffron
  • Parsley, chopped (save some for garnish)
  • Salt and pepper
  • Lemon for garnish

Protein

  • Traditional paellas are seafood dishes, but on a student budget I would suggest picking two of these proteins instead.
  • 1 lb sausage, sliced
  • ½ lb shrimp, peeled
  • 1 lb chicken breast or boneless thighs, cubed

Instructions

Step 1

Add oil to skillet over medium heat. Add onion, zucchini, bell peppers, and mushrooms and cook until the mixture softens. Then add tomatoes, bay leaves, paprika, salt, pepper, and saffron to mixture and cook for 5 minutes stirring occasionally. Transfer into a separate container. Preheat oven to 350 degrees.

Step 2

In the same pan, add more oil and your protein. Make sure to space your protein and cook for 3-5 minutes or until all pieces have a nice brown color. Add a few ounces of wine or whatever alcohol you are currently drinking to the pan to deglaze the burnt bits off the bottom and let cook for an additional minute.

Step 3

Add the vegetable mixture back to the pan and incorporate. Then, add your rice and parsley and quickly make sure to get an even distribution of rice in the pan. It is important to not mix your paella moving forward or else you will lose the crispy crust that forms on the bottom, known as a socarrat.

Step 4

Slowly pour your broth around the pan. If you need to distribute the liquid evenly you can jiggle the pan but do not stir.

Step 5

Bring to a boil and then reduce heat to medium low. Cook for 15 minutes or until most of the liquid has absorbed. Nestle shrimp around the top and then continue to cook for another 5 minutes.

Step 6

Check rice. If not tender, add slightly more water or broth. If tender, add peas to top and cover with foil. Then place in oven for 5-10 minutes or until shrimp are cooked through.

Step 7

Remove pan from oven and let rest. Garnish with additional parsley and lemon. Enjoy!

— Brett Hallagan is a 3L KU Law Student Ambassador from San Diego, California